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This is my first real competitive team, and I want it to be a good one. Hopefully this doesn't get too long. Please rate my team, and if you have any criticism, please make it helpful criticism. After each pokemon, I'm going to list a comment. Feel free to substitute pokemon for others you feel would best work with this team.
Physical Sweeper Gyarados @ Life Orb
Adamant nature
EVs:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Waterfall
Dragon Dance
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Comments: Gyarados is a standard tank. Nothing else to say.
A very annoying, walling, pretty much hated Shuckle @ Leftovers
Careful nature
Evs: 252 HP, 252 Defence, 6 Sp. Defence
Rest
Protect
Stealth Rock
Toxic
Comments: Shuckle is an annoying, status inflicting, Stealth Rocking, twerp. I guess that's why I like him
Fragile Cannon Gengar @ Choice Specs
Timid nature
Evs: 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Attack, 6 Sp. Defence
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Ice
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Comments: Gengar is there to get a couple quick hits in before he dies or I switch someone else in to cover for him.
Special Sweeper Lucario @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
Evs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Vacuum Wave
Comments: Lucario is an unexpected (at least I think so) special sweeper.
He comes out of nowhere because most expect him to be a physical sweeper.
Physical/Mixed Sweeper Salamence @ Life Orb
Lonely nature
Evs: 100 Attack, 252 Speed, 158 Sp. Attack
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Earthquake
Roost
Comments: Ok so it's mostly physical, but I needed Salamence to stay in the game, so I put Roost on it.
Healer/ Special Sweeper Jolteon @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Wish
Substitute
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Comments: Jolteon is here to heal and sweep a little bit at the same time.
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Physical Sweeper Electivire@ idk
Adamant
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Hp
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Brick Break
HP grass for rock/grounds
Comments: Electivire instead of Jolteon because I need another Physical Sweeper. Thunder Punch for STAB, Ice for Dragons
Thanks for helping me with my team!!!
Also special thanks to Roberto, Ninja Death Strike, Kevin, and Rykeus for making all those guides on team building. I couldn't have done this without you guys.
Physical Sweeper Gyarados @ Life Orb
Adamant nature
EVs:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Waterfall
Dragon Dance
Ice Fang
Earthquake
Comments: Gyarados is a standard tank. Nothing else to say.
A very annoying, walling, pretty much hated Shuckle @ Leftovers
Careful nature
Evs: 252 HP, 252 Defence, 6 Sp. Defence
Rest
Protect
Stealth Rock
Toxic
Comments: Shuckle is an annoying, status inflicting, Stealth Rocking, twerp. I guess that's why I like him
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Mixed wall Dusknoir @ Idk
Brave
62 Hp 252 Defence 196 Sp.Def
Fire Punch
Shadow Sneak
Substitute
Brick Break
Comments: I use Dusknoir instead of Shuckle because shuckle has less Hp
Mixed wall Dusknoir @ Idk
Brave
62 Hp 252 Defence 196 Sp.Def
Fire Punch
Shadow Sneak
Substitute
Brick Break
Comments: I use Dusknoir instead of Shuckle because shuckle has less Hp
Fragile Cannon Gengar @ Choice Specs
Timid nature
Evs: 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Attack, 6 Sp. Defence
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Ice
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Comments: Gengar is there to get a couple quick hits in before he dies or I switch someone else in to cover for him.
Special Sweeper Lucario @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
Evs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Vacuum Wave
Comments: Lucario is an unexpected (at least I think so) special sweeper.
He comes out of nowhere because most expect him to be a physical sweeper.
Physical/Mixed Sweeper Salamence @ Life Orb
Lonely nature
Evs: 100 Attack, 252 Speed, 158 Sp. Attack
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Earthquake
Roost
Comments: Ok so it's mostly physical, but I needed Salamence to stay in the game, so I put Roost on it.
Healer/ Special Sweeper Jolteon @ Leftovers
Modest Nature
252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Wish
Substitute
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Comments: Jolteon is here to heal and sweep a little bit at the same time.
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Physical Sweeper Electivire@ idk
Adamant
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Hp
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Brick Break
HP grass for rock/grounds
Comments: Electivire instead of Jolteon because I need another Physical Sweeper. Thunder Punch for STAB, Ice for Dragons
Thanks for helping me with my team!!!
Also special thanks to Roberto, Ninja Death Strike, Kevin, and Rykeus for making all those guides on team building. I couldn't have done this without you guys.
Last edited by pokemonmaster on Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:55 am; edited 15 times in total
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pokemonmaster wrote:This is my first real competitive team, and I want it to be a good one. Hopefully this doesn't get too long. Please rate my team, and if you have any criticism, please make it helpful criticism. After each pokemon, I'm going to list a comment. Feel free to substitute pokemon for others you feel would best work with this team. Also I need an electric Pokemon for my team, and I can't decide. I was thinking Magnezone or Electivire. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Tankish Gyarados @ (need help with the item. I was thinking Life Orb)
Adamant nature
EVs:252 Attack, 252 Defence, 6 Speed
Aqua Tail
Dragon Dance
Avalanche
_________ (Idk)
Comments: Gyarados is a standard tank. Nothing else to say.
A very annoying, walling, pretty much hated Shuckle @ Leftovers
Careful nature
Evs: 252 HP, 252 Defence, 6 Sp. Defence
Double Team
Protect
Stealth Rock
Toxic
Comments: Shuckle is an annoying, status inflicting, Stealth Rocking, twerp. I guess that's why I like himDouble team helps him stay in the game longer.
Fragile Cannon Gengar @ Choice Specs
Modest nature
Evs: 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Attack, 6 Sp. Defence
Shadow Ball
Dark Pulse
Energy Ball
Thunderbolt
Comments: Gengar is there to get a couple quick hits in before he dies or I switch someone else in to cover for him.
Special Sweeper Lucario @ (I don't know)
_________ (again, idk)
Evs:
Aura Sphere
Psychic
Calm Mind
Flash Cannon
Comments: Lucario is an unexpected (at least I think so) special sweeper.
He comes out of nowhere because most expect him to be a physical sweeper. Psychic is for other fighting types that pose a threat to it.
Physical/Mixed Sweeper Salamence @ (Idk)
Lonely nature
Evs: 100 Attack, 252 Speed, 158 Sp. Attack
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Thunder Fang
Roost
Comments: Ok so it's mostly physical, but I needed Salamence to stay in the game, so I put Roost on it. Thunder Fang is in case I can't get my electric pokemon in because of EQ or something like that.
Thanks for helping me with my team!!!
Also special thanks to Roberto, Ninja Death Strike, Kevin, and Rykeus for making all those guides on team building. I couldn't have done this without you guys.
Gyarados isn't a tank. Hes a physical sweeper.
Gyarados@ Leftovers/lum berry/life orb
Adamant 252 attack 252 speed 6 hp
-DD
-Waterfall
-Eq
-Ice Fang/Stone Edge
Take off double team on shuckle since most people play by evasion clause.Replace it with rest.
Go timid if you want to use choice specs on gengar, or just add a choice scarf. Go Shadow ball, HP ice, thunderbolt, focus blast.
Add a choice specs to lucario and go Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse
Vacuum Wave with modest/timid nature 252 sp attack 252 speed 6 hp
Replace thunder fang on salamence with Draco Metor/EQ and give it life orb.
Last edited by Kevin on Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:02 pm; edited 5 times in total
Re: Rate my team
well i think kevin said it all mostly. But for Sala you can keep the basic idea with the same Ev spread but Fire Blast or Flamethrower/Draco Meteor/Brick Break/Roost with a life orb.For Lucario go modest/timid focus sash Hp Ice or Dragon Pulse/Dark Pulse/Aura Sphere/Vacumn wave
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And for Electric, you could choose Jolteon. If you could, this could be the move set:
Jolteon @ Leftovers
Modest
6 HP/252 Spd./252 Sp.Atk
-Wish
-Substitute
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
Jolteon @ Leftovers
Modest
6 HP/252 Spd./252 Sp.Atk
-Wish
-Substitute
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice
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You should probably use a electric pokemon that's a physical sweeper since you only have one physical sweeper on this team.Go with timid nature if you still want to use jolteon.Also, you might want to add another mixed wall to your team since shuckle isn't very reliable due to his low hp.Replace protect with knock off so you don't get walled by taunt.
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Ok what should I switch Shuckle and Jolteon to? How about Dusknoir and switch Gengar to Weaville? For Electric, how about Electivire?
Last edited by pokemonmaster on Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:26 am; edited 1 time in total
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switch jolteon to like electrivire or pikachu/raichu (volt tackle ftw) and shuckle to blissey/dusknoir
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ok im gonna help you with shuckle.
Protect + Toxic is like the most commonly used shuckle tact there is. If i were you, id replace protect with knock off. Rest can work, but the 2 turns means youll almost be at the same place as you were before (HP wise) if they attack (generally) and if they switch they get a free setup. SR is good. You may want SR/Knock off/Toxic last slot as Rest OR Wrap (i think it traps them so they cant switch out from toxic).
If you wanna be boring and replace shuckle then..ok... but shuckle rules.
Protect + Toxic is like the most commonly used shuckle tact there is. If i were you, id replace protect with knock off. Rest can work, but the 2 turns means youll almost be at the same place as you were before (HP wise) if they attack (generally) and if they switch they get a free setup. SR is good. You may want SR/Knock off/Toxic last slot as Rest OR Wrap (i think it traps them so they cant switch out from toxic).
If you wanna be boring and replace shuckle then..ok... but shuckle rules.
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Right now you're missing a good wall. I know you have shuckle, but he's not going to cut it on his own. I'd drop one of your three special attackers and replace it with another wall/tank. Blissey, Cresselia, Celebi, and Swampert are all good choices.

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imo he could take out lucario and put in one of the walls mentioned by Mtshank
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